Sunday, October 08, 2006

From there to here - buying the bike, repairing & replacing and the reasons why


The mid-weight cruiser has been making a big come back in recent years. Partly due to the greedy oil companies raising their prices of gas to a level where only the rich can afford it. And partly due to the fact that the mid-weight cruiser is a damn great bike!
What I ride is a (soon to be) classic – the 1981 Honda Silverwing GL500. This was the first year that the Silverwing was introduced. The idea was to offer a more feasible and ride-able companion to the Goldwing. Unfortunately the introduction of this great bike came at a time when there was a big glut in the motorcycle market. Simply put there were too many bikes and not enough buyers.
Around the time of the mid eighties the excess of new bikes and the recession that was taking place made it possible to walk to a dealer and buy a brand new bike that was 2 – 3 years old, never ridden, at half of the original sticker price. These factors led to the demise of the Silverwing. A bike that’s run lasted a mere four years.
And now we are in a time where these bikes are what the consumers are asking for. Performance, rideability at a sticker price and fuel consumption that makes it feasible to ride any time. Thus the birth or rebirth of a much sought after classic. The Silverwing!

I bought my Silverwing this summer 2006 from a young guy that has neglected and abused it for 7 years. Being that the bike just had it 25th birthday (it was #523 off the assembly line) I would have planned to tear it down and rebuild it anyway. But due to the previous owners negligence it is mandatory. There are so many little things that are wrong with this bike which are mainly due to the previous owner dropping about half a dozen time on each side. Amazingly there is only one small dent in the tank. But all the other impact points have to be replaced – signals, side cover, clips etc. I figure that once I complete the rebuild this winter I will probably pull off at least 2 full rolls of electrical and duct tape. The engine still runs great which would be amazing with all the abuse except for one simple fact…It’s a HONDA!!!! Proof that these are practically indestructible bikes. This is one of the main reasons that I sought out a Honda. Another reason is the reliability and lack of maintenance from having a shaft drive versus a chain.

Now that you have read through my long testimony and history of my bike, (or did you just skip to the end?); the point of this blog – I will try to chronicle the rebuild of this bike and provide pictures. Hopefully I will gain feedback and information from those that view this blog and be able to answer a few questions myself.

So here is a list of the parts that I have had to replace:
· Mirrors
· Side cover
· Chrome gauge and headlight housing
· Front wheel rim
· Locking gas cap
· Ignition (not the coil)
· Clips and fuse box cover

Here are the parts that I plan to replace for a variety of reasons:
Fuel tank…possibly. Due to the fact that it is too boxy looking for my taste. I am considering a Honda CX tank.
Handlebars. I am waiting to get the originals back from the owner although I still may replace them with ones that are more comfortable for a person my size (6ft 1)
Grips. Those original rubber ones are to small for my large hands plus I want a bit of chrome
Fuel gauge. The Silverwing did not have one so I will replace it with a Goldwing that had temp & fuel gauges.
Steering head bearings. An obvious change. Going to the tapered which will remove that notchiness feel of the originals
Pipes. I hate the way the originals look. Kinda like those silly trumpets that they use in medieval royal courts. I am going to put on straight pipes with a slash open if I can find them at a reasonable price
Horn. The originals sound about as intimidating as the bark from a lap dog. Plus I think they look like a couple bug eyes coming off the forks. I found a company online that sells an air horn that is easily concealed. (link to the site in the future)
I’ll be buying saddle bags as well. I found that Canadian Tire sells some nylon ones for under $100 that’ll do the job
Foot pegs. Again, due to my size I plan to change them and lower them a bit so that I can stretch out my legs a bit more
Clutch and brake levers. As you can imagine they are in a broken state since the bike has been dropped so many times.
I wanna change the majority of the screws and bolts to stainless steel hex bolts. A superficial change but I like ‘em.

If I actually have the disposable income during the winter I will do the following:
Chrome – the radiator cover. Original is aluminium
Shaft covers
Front end
Pretty much anything else that I have the money for
I will for sure be painting the bike. The frame I am going to keep black. That’ll be a powder coat. The tank and side covers I am currently planning to paint a dark/black cherry colour.


So here we go!.......

I have been buying parts through eBay. Trying to do it through a dealership would cost way too much. Going that route it would be cheaper to just buy a new bike.
The previous owners mechanical aptitude was less than adequate to put it nicely. His fix all method for any problem was electrical or duct tape, or to fix a part by taking a steel auger and drill it out! Feel free to shudder and cringe at this point. I do on a regular basis.
What I have replaced so far is the left side cover, the ignition, all four turn signals and the front rim. The rim was bent because the previous owner ran into a curb while drinking and driving! The ignition was drilled out. (I won’t tell you all the dumb stories of why he did these things unless you ask me) Mirrors – there wasn’t any when I bought it.
In case you are wondering why I bought this bike, it is because of the engine. It still runs great and I got the bike at a great price - $550 Canadian dollars. Plus I enjoy working on the bike. Any way…enough writing for now. Heres some pictures:

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

hahaha:
"Horn. The originals sound about as intimidating as the bark from a lap dog."
-I had to use my horn yesterday to get this stupid dolt BACK to behind the left turn stop line to trigger the light sensor for me and used my horn....so embarrassing to find out your horn sounds like a cross between a New Year's noise maker and a cat in heat.

Vernon Green said...

I too have purchased a 81 Silverwing and I am interested in what headlight works on this bike. I had a ugly 80's fairing on the bike that got taken off the first day I got it. I am cleaning the gas tank and pulled the carbs to start.

Thanks,

Vernon Green
Poquoson, Va

Danjones13 said...

I had a question for you. I bought an 81 Silverwing the other day. This is my first bike, got a good price but the bike has seen better days. The wiring has been McGyvered, to replace what the rats got to. I was wornder if either the front or rear turn singals were suppost to be on while driving. I know most bikes have the front turn singals on at all time. Hoping you could help. danjones13@hotmail.com

Unknown said...

I just bought an 81 GL500 2 months ago( 1st street bike in over 20 years)and I just started having a problem with my right hand blinker coming on but not always blinking.
Any advise? I think it might just be a loose ground because the left works fine.

Thanks,Norm
Selah, WA.

lisajason said...

I need to know were i can get a headlight housing. Doing away with the front kit that holds the radio and headlight. I looked around town and no help do I need to make something for the headlight, or were can i buy? thanks

Unknown said...

I have a headlight that was mounted in the aftermarket faring that I removed. It is rectangular. You will probably have to fabricate something custom.I have not been successful in locating many parts for this bike on E-bay.

Anyone know where I can find a cowling for the passenger seat?

calvin said...

i just bought a GL 500 but i am having trouble with the turn signals. they stay on but when i flip the switch instead of the light blinking the opposite side just turns off. is that right or what do i need to do. i would be greatful for any help. my email is calvin.dickson@yahoo.com

Unknown said...

I had a similar problem and it was a loose ground wire located under the seat.

zdenek said...

what happened to your fairing?
Is it for sale?
Zdenek

zdenek said...

I hit a deer at 115 KM/h yesterday.I was able to stop with out wiping out. But my fairing took the impact and shattered. I'm looking for a new one, please.
Zdenek

81swing said...

Dear fellow 81 Silverwing owner!
I bought mine in ~ '95, and never had any problems with this unique, heavy, but loveable bike! It had to sit for 6 years (!), but I am having it fixed and am looking for the carb rebuild kits...I see that many sites that sell separate parts for mucho $...any suggestions?
P.S. - I love this bike!!! It has fairing w/stereo, large removable rear trunk/seat (no saddle bags..:(

81swing said...

OH-I wonder if it is a GL500 Interstate...because of uncommon high rear trunk, which I have only seen pics of coupled with those hard-shell "saddle bags"...I think that engine GL500I has slightly different specs.....Any sharing of info is certainly appreciated, and I will of course help anybody I can!

81swing said...

Sorry for the multiple posts...but 1 last thing - I have the original owners manual if anybody wants to verify specs...and will happily scan and e-mail if requested....:)

Unknown said...

Hey everyone, just found this site.

I'm about to buy an 81 silverwing with the front ferring and saddle bags.

I want to remove the ferring and saddle bags, anyone want them?

Unknown said...

Hey everyone, just found this site.

I'm about to buy an 81 silverwing with the front ferring and saddle bags.

I want to remove the ferring and saddle bags, anyone want them?

tilloster said...

hey niboT, I just bought a 1981 silverwing and im looking for the fairing and box, and saddlebags. IF YOU STILL HAVE THEM, PLease, please contact me asap! thanks!!!

Unknown said...

what's the link to the air horn you mention?

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Unknown said...

I purchased a 1981 Silverwing Interstate in so-so condition. I rebuilt the carbs and most of the electrical, put in an amperage/voltage gauge and installed highway lights on each side of the fairing ( Now people on the highway can see me coming for a long way off). Flushed the engine and adjusted linkages. Put on new tires and reconditioned the fairing screen with the same conditioner used on aircraft (son works for an aircraft repair company). Rebuilt the carbs and balanced them (very critical on this engine or it's a dog). I'm planning on having it repainted but the paint on it is still in pretty good shape considering it's age. I replaced the horns with the small but very loud horns from a newer chevy car (hid them up under the fairing above the radiator), now when I hit that button, people react differently, they move quick lol. In case some of you are wondering how I did it since the original horns are activated from the switch on the handlebar and the horns had a constant positive current going to them and the switch just grounded out on the handlebar and sent the negative current to the horns (whew), I just grounded out the horns to the frame then ran the direct positive to a relay then ran the negative/ground from the switch to the relay thereby activating it by negative instead of positive and of course running positive to one of the "shorted" posts and ran a wire from the other post to the horns. Works fantastic! I have since then registered it with my insurance company with photos for collector status (any vehicle 25 years or older) and a list of the mods I made for safety reasons (which is legal) and I now have a collector bike that I only have to pay half of the insurance for. Of course it can only be used for pleasure use). Oh, and I re-chromed the pipes and the engine protection cage, NICE! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! lol

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Eric Jakob said...

I am inheriting the same bike from my father. I dont like the look of the huge front console ferring, headlight and windshield housing. I know, blasphemy to the true historian, but I love the look of your bike. I will read your other posts now but I could use some pointers on what parts I will need to mount a lone headlight with signals and windshield when I take the whole console off. What bike did you use for those parts?

Eric Jakob said...

I am inheriting the same bike from my father. I dont like the look of the huge front console ferring, headlight and windshield housing. I know, blasphemy to the true historian, but I love the look of your bike. I will read your other posts now but I could use some pointers on what parts I will need to mount a lone headlight with signals and windshield when I take the whole console off. What bike did you use for those parts?

Bob said...

I have the pleasure of owning a 1981 Honda Silverwing. I bought it used in 1983. It has full fairing with hard luggage. It is a pleasure to ride.
I have made one trip to the west coast and back with a friend who rode a Goldwing. My bike did well keeping up on the level while dropping off a bit on some of the steep climbs. I could always pass him at the gas pumps (his gas mileage was 1/2 of mine). I would always stop with him for the coffee, visit and stretching of our legs.
It is parked in the garage for most of the year now except for this last summer when my oldest son came home with his new Harley Sportster. A little polish, check the tires, check the oils, check the air setting on the suspension and it was good to go. I was proud to ride this bike beside my son's Harley. Each to his own, I am a little older and so is my bike. We are a good pair.

Unknown said...

I recently bought a 1981 sliverwing gl500i, I transported it in my trailer due to the bad weather, changed the oil, did some safety checks and I rode it today for the first time. I was very pleased! I have a winning noise when I get to a traffic light as I accelerate, I have to figure that out. The old fairing kept me warm, it is cold in Minnesota. Gil

Unknown said...

I bought an 82 silverwing interstate in 9-10. I am in the process of rebuilding. This will be a beautiful bike that anyone would be proud to ride. I have found so many parts for it on the internet. Makes me wonder why people don't restore more often instead of parting out. Well good good parts for me but sad to see these beautiful bikes fade away.

Unknown said...

Well that just means that the less of these bikes there are in riding condition, the more our bikes will be worth lol.

Mark said...

I've found a fairing and saddle bags for a 1981 Honda Interstate GL500 but I own a 1980 CX500 - is there any hope of getting these two to live in happiness with each other?

Unknown said...

i have recently inherited my grandpas 82 silverwing gl500 and just got it running last week, i absolutly love this bike!!!! but i am finding that parts for it are few and far between, im needing the side covers for it and all i can find is the right side not the left any ideas fellas?

Unknown said...

Good luck with that one, finding trim pieces are very difficult unless you can locate someone with a scrapped bike.